это церковь, незнаю как я в первый раз смотрела .

Гизборн-форест))
http://mypennines.co.uk/images/bowland/ … forest.JPG

Alga

, это, по-моему, все тот же Гисборновский лес, я находила уже, он там рядышком )))

Alga
вот не знаю насчет угодий... Большие больно угодья получаются. Там на карте вполне себе приличный кусок зеленого цвета называется Гизборн форест.

Потому что деревья (как официанты и китайцы) все на одно лицо...

Кстати, о Ги из Гискура. Кто хочет прикол? Меня он периодически веселит, как представлю нашего Гизборна в веночке из этого безобразия. О чём это я? Просто есть сорт... роз. Называет "Шато Гискур". То бишь "Поместье Гискур" или "Замок Гискур". Ессно во времена РГ и ГГ это вот не росло в Англии. А выглядят такие цветочки... ну, не знаю. Не самый мой любимый вид роз. Здесь еще розы данного сорта есть. А здесь можно прочитать несколько сторк о реальной флоре того Гизборна, который в Ланкашире.

Отредактировано Alga (2019-10-22 19:25:56)

Что нарылось по поводу герба:

Gisborne Coat of Arms / Gisborne Family Crest

The surname of GISBORNE was a locational name 'of Gisburne' a parish seven miles from Clitheroe, County York. Local names usually denoted where a man held his land, and indicated where he actually lived. Originally the coat of arms identified the wearer, either in battle or in tournaments. Completely covered in body and facial armour the knight could be spotted and known by the insignia painted on his shield, and embroidered on his surcoat, the draped garment which enveloped him. Between the 11th and 15th centuries it became customary for surnames to be assumed in Europe, but were not commonplace in England or Scotland before the Norman Conquest of 1066. They are to be found in the Domesday Book of 1086. Those of gentler blood assumed surnames at this time, but it was not until the reign of Edward II (1307-1327) that second names became general practice for all people. Early records of the name mention Thomas de Gysburn of Yorkshire, who was listed in the Yorkshire Poll Tax of 1379. Willelmus de Gisburn, ibid. The name is rare in Scotland but was recorded there early, and Henry de Gyseburn (friar) witnessed a charter in 1229. Thomas Gyseburne was recorded in North Berwick in 1561, and Margaret Guysburn appears in Edinburgh in 1677. Alba, the country which became Scotland, was once shared by four races; the Picts who controlled most of the land north of the Central Belt; the Britons, who had their capital at Dumbarton and held sway over the south west, including modern Cumbria; the Angles, who were Germanic in origin and annexed much of the Eastern Borders in the seventh century, and the Scots. The latter came to Alba from the north of Ireland late in the 5th century to establish a colony in present day Argyll, which they named Dalriada, after their homeland. The Latin name SCOTTI simply means a Gaelic speaker. The associated arms are recorded in Sir Bernard Burkes General Armory. Ulster King of Arms in 1884. Granted at Yoxhall Lodge, County Stafford and Horwick House, County Derbyshire. Granted in 1741, descended from John Gisborne Esq. of Derbyshire who was born in the year 1644. The lion depicted in the arms is the noblest of all wild beasts which is made to be the emblem of strength and valour, and is on that account the most frequently borne in Coat-Armour.
здесь, по словам Alga, точно поминается лев.
взято вот отсюда:
http://blog.appletonstudios.com/2009_03_01_archive.html

http://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/ScrollDetails/Gisborne
это вот текст:
Last name: Gisborne
Sir Guy of Gisborne features widely in the stories and films of 'Robin Hood', but sadly like Robin himself, he seems to be something of a myth. This surname is most certainly of Olde English pre 10th century origins, and derives from the small town of Gisburn in North Yorkshire. First recorded in the rolls of Yorkshire in the year 1195, as 'Giselburn', this is an accurate description of Gisburn. The original spelling means 'rushing brook', from the words 'gisel burna', the town being sited on such a stream. In the early charters we do have Walter de Gisburn, (see below), a famous chronicler of the medieval period, renowned for his ecclesiastical writings. He does not however seem to have taken up 'knightly' deeds. The 'modern' surname is recorded as Gisburn and Gisburne, the traditional Yorkshire spellings, and Gisborne, Gisbourn and Gisbourne, which are generally recorded further south. Examples taken from the church recordings include William Gisburn, christened at Marske in Cleveland, the epi-centre of the name, on January 19th 1578, and John Gisborne, who married Emme Ashby at St. Botolphs Bishopgate, London, on January 29th 1600. Other recordings include John Gisborne, who married Elizabeth Roulston at St Mary Mounthaw, London, on August 29th 1620, and Robertus Gisbourn, christened at Marske in Cleveland, on July 27th 1684. The coat of arms was granted in Derbyshire in 1741, and has the blazon of Erminois, a black lion rampant, collared silver, on a green canton, a golden garb. The first recorded spelling of the family name is shown to be that of Walter de Gisburn, which was dated c1280 - 1350, who wrote the history of the Priory of St Mary's, Gisburn, during the reign of King Edward 111, known as 'The father of the Navy', 1327 - 1377. Surnames became necessary when governments introduced personal taxation. In England this was known as Poll Tax. Throughout the centuries, surnames in every country have continued to "develop" often leading to astonishing variants of the original spelling.

Sawley, Gisburn Park, Paythorne, Rathmell, Settle (Ribble Way - part)

на одном из зданий сохранились изображения гербов, взято вот отсюда
http://www.boydharris.co.uk/w_bh09/090805.htm

вот все же мне видятся очертания того же самого льва... даже на двух изображениях

Отредактировано Midinvaerne (2011-03-19 17:31:27)

Думаю, фамилия ему помогла в данном случае. Можно же правильно обыграть на предвыборной компании))

Ага, типа достали их ужо Уолтеры. 

Nasir, вся книга читается с интересом, спасибо! Та часть, которая с гизборнобалладой - статья Стюарта Кейна "Horseplay: Robin Hood, Guy of Gosborne and Neg(oti)ation of the Bestial" порадовала тоже. Однако, секс и "охота на живого человека" правят миром.

Отредактировано Alga (2011-05-02 16:59:00)